Transcript of Sri Bhagavan’s Australian Webcast 8 February 2014
Expression of gratitude by the Australian hosts:
Dearest Beloved Bhagavan, on behalf of everyone gathered around Australia for this webcast today, we would like to offer our deepest gratitude to you for blessing us with your undivided attention and Grace on this special occasion. We also offer our deepest gratitude for the growth and transformation we have all received over the years through the Divine Grace of Sri AmmaBhagavan. We thank you for taking your Divine Birth and for your Divine Mission and for blessing us all in this lifetime with the opportunity of serving this Mission for the upliftment of humanity.
Q1. Dearest Beloved Bhagavan, can you please explain for all the new people who have gathered around Australia today, the three-part journey of which you speak Bhagavan, the three-part journey of Awakening, Transformation and God-Realisation. Thank you Bhagavan
Sri Bhagavan: What is there is only yourself. You alone exist – nothing but you. Then begins this journey towards God which we call God-Realisation. So we first start with awakening then transformation then God Realisation. What is important is to create in the brain that which helps you to stay with the what-is without effort. That is the first step – all else is automatic. There is nothing for you to do. Like you get a flight ticket and you get to that flight and it takes you wherever you should go. Similarly, if you could stay with the what-is without effort, it should be without effort, that is why this brain has got to change - once that happens it is all automatic. You keep looking at the what-is. You feel the what-is. You see the what-is. You experience the what-is. Now the what-is is your book. That is your text. That is your scripture. The what-is is your guru. The what-is is your teacher. You are an autopilot – everything comes to know what is. All you must do is stay with the what-is without effort.
Q2. Dearest Beloved Bhagavan, as the Sacred Chamber process is now beginning here in Australia, can you please explain to us Bhagavan what people can expect from undergoing this process. Thank you Bhagavan.
Sri Bhagavan:The Sacred Chambers are a short way to awakening, transformation, God-Realisation and sorting out all problems. In Oneness there are two ways – the long way and the short way. The long way you will depend only on yourself. You apply yourself, you put in your effort – you do not depend on God. It is completely your effort. You have a choice to go that way. The other is you depend on God to do things for you. When that happens, it is very, very fast. It is up to you to choose whatever path you want. You can say “I do not want God I will do it on my own”. That’s perfectly fine. But some would say “I need God’s help”. Take God’s help. God here means your personal God – the God you create. It could be Christ, it could be the Virgin Mary, it could be the Buddha, it could be Krishna, it could be anybody. It is all yours. You have to create your God and that’s very crucial. If you create a judging, punishing God, you are not going to get much. It depends on you, you have to create a loving God, a kind God, a non-judgemental God Who would help you very, very fast. If you get that kind of God, then in the Sacred Chambers you will get help from God. In the Sacred Chambers, if you follow the instructions directly, your God will become physical. At the first level, you will see physical movements in the picture. Then you find your God coming out of the picture. But you can’t touch your God - your hand would go through your God – so we call that physical-non-physical. That is, it looks physical but you cannot touch it. At the second level, it becomes physical-physical. That is, you could see your God and you could also touch your God. You could feel the breath, you could feel the heartbeat, you could feel the warmth of a body. All that you could feel but still you cannot photograph. At the third level, it becomes physical-physical-physical. Your God looks physical. You could hear Him speak. You could touch Him of Her - or whatever your God is - you could touch and you could also take photographs. You could pull out your cell phone camera, if it is allowed, and you could take a picture. The picture will come. And of course you could talk to your God and ask whatever you want. Now, suppose your karma is preventing you from creating wealth, or creating obstacles in life or sickness, then you should ask to clear some karma. That can be done. Suppose your problems arise from your wrong program at the moment of conception, what happened in the womb, or the delivery, or the first 6 hours, or the first 6 years, that could be changed in the Sacred Chambers. It could be cleared within minutes. That could happen. Suppose you want wealth, you could ask for it and you would be granted wealth. Your God will tell you when the money would come how it would come. Then it would be given to you. Suppose you want to have a life partner, ask for a life partner -you will get that. If you want to have a child – you could have a child. You could have anything. It is between you and your God. Your God will give it to you. This is a game changer. It is a game changer for humanity. Very often you must have thought: if God you are there why do You not come before me? why don’t You talk to me? why do you not help? That is exactly what is happening. We have in India now over 700 of these Sacred Chambers. People are flocking there every day and almost all their prayers are getting answered. For some people they have it immediately. For some people God says come back over 2 days or 5 days or 5 times or 7 times. And regular surgeries are happening. All kinds of tumors are disappearing and many healings in the hospitals. What’s happening is totally unbelievable. What happens cannot be believed. One has to experience it. One has to see it. Things are getting easier and easier. People could ask for awakening and it is very, very fast. You could ask for transformation, it is very very fast. You do not have to struggle to stay with the what-is. If you want to, you could do, but all you have to ask is, “please help me to change the what-is”. Then it is finished. The brain is rewired and everything happens. People ask for unconditional love - the heart is transformed - and you discover unconditional love. So quick and so fast. The only problem with this - you sometimes wonder, ‘how is this possible?’ That is the problem. You have to become child-like. For every child who comes to the Sacred Chamber, God is physical. Because children are child-like. If you could become child-like, it is a very, very simple thing. And what you have got to understand is, no matter who you are, what you are - you could be the most terrible sinner on the planet - your God does not judge you. Your God loves you. Your God will accept you. And your God is ready to do anything for you. You must be clear about that. If you are going to condemn yourself or judge yourself, it is not going to happen. All that you must know is, your God has nothing but love for you.
Q3. Dearest Bhagavan, Oneness teaches us that after awakening, we have to stay with the “What is”, without judgement, without labelling and that content is not important. Recently, certain emotions and worries kept bothering me. I was trying to stay with the “what is”. However, my mind kept on associating these emotions and worries with specific past events, or a person. I had no choice but simply to stay with the emotion and sadly by doing so, the negative events and image of a person kept lingering in my mind. This bothers me as the law of attraction is working out quite strongly too. The more I stayed with the “what is”, the more I kept bumping into the negative incidences and person which I do not want to see.
Bhagavan, can you please give me some guidance? What have I done wrong?
Sri Bhagavan: If you try staying with the what-is with effort, all kinds of things happen. You’ve got to stay with the what-is without effort. That is, apply all your energy and pay attention to the what-is. We generally dissipate all our energies. We have to gather all those energies and simply apply it there. When energy is applied to anything, that thing undergoes a transformation. For example, if you apply energy to ice, ice becomes water. If you apply energy to water, it becomes vapour. So whatever the thing is there, if you apply energy there, it undergoes a transformation like ice becoming water and water becoming vapour. Similarly here, if you apply all your energy to the what-is, the what-is undergoes a transformation. But it must be done without effort. However, we are not so concerned about that transformation. That is something like a by-product. But simply staying with the what-is, or seeing the what-is, without effort, that itself gives you freedom. It gives you joy. It gives you happiness. That is how man has got to live. The what-is undergoes a transformation, but we are not concerned so much about that. We are focussing on helping you stay with the what-is without effort. Either we give you deeksha and do the rewiring, or you go to the Sacred Chambers and it’s all done for you. It can happen in no time, without effort. It becomes child’s play. It becomes natural like breathing. Staying with the what-is, without effort, becomes natural to you. It is as simple as that.
Q4. My question is: How do we continue to thrive on our beautiful planet ' Mother Earth', when scientists are revealing the truths regarding climate change and our continued degradation of the planet? How do we prevent these things occurring? I am usually a very positive person - but I am feeling very challenged when I view the latest research and my children wish to not have their own children due to the world being in peril. What do I tell them Sri Baghavan? Please give us hope.
Sri Bhagavan: In the next 20 years, we are going to have unbelievable technological breakthroughs. These breakthroughs are going to transform our lives and our planet. These technologies will not destroy our planet. They will help the life of man. Besides that, we are also going to have a revolution in human consciousness. As more and more people get transformed, get awakened, and get God-realised, that transformation is also going to transform human life. The other thing is, man himself is going to be so transformed that he becomes very protective about the environment. And that change in consciousness will help the planet revive itself.
Q5. Bhagavan, I have recently been diagnosed with Parkinsons Disease. I went through the Sacred Chambers in Sydney, and, after the second time, I felt something lift from my body. But my hand and leg are still shaking. Does healing happen instantly, or should I go through the Sacred Chambers again? How will I know I have been permanently healed?
Sri Bhagavan:In 90% of cases healing happens instantly at one go. In other cases it takes sometimes days or weeks. If you could talk to your God, ask Him as to when He would heal you and how many times you should come. Otherwise, if there is somebody there who is able to talk to that God, they could ask and find out for you - how many times you must come and when you should come, and, in your case, you might have to ask for karmic clearance. There is sometimes a karma clearing needed for you. If that happens, healing would be much quicker. But definitely you will be healed. And, as you keep going, there will be improvement. And once the karma is cleared, it would be very fast. Why it is taking time is, karmic obstacles will need to be removed. But you will be healed.
Q6. Dearest Bhagavan, at times I feel my awakening has stalled where I am still reacting to past patterns with my parents and loved ones. How does one be free of these patterns once and for all - to experience love and divine grace in each moment?
Sri Bhagavan: The simplest thing for you would be to go through the Sacred Chambers. There it will happen very, very fast. You don’t have to keep struggling with it.
Q7. Dearest Bhagavan, we were given levels of awakening in India. What is the one thing we can do to expand our consciousness into higher and higher levels of awakening and oneness with the Divine?
Sri Bhagavan:How do we know we are transformed? Suppose you want to see yourself, you need a mirror. Now, here the mirror is relationship. Relationship is the mirror in which you could see yourself. If your relationships keep improving, it means you are getting transformed. And, if you keep working on your relationships, starting of course with your parents, with your spouse, your children, your friends, your relatives, you will see everything is changing. Relationship is the key. We are so focussed on that. If nothing is hurting you, you get joy in relationship - when you look at your husband you get joy, when you look at your wife you get joy, when you look at your parents you get joy. Relationship must give you joy. That means you are getting transformed. Otherwise, you are stuck somewhere. So work on relationship and you could take the help of the Divine for that too.
Q8. Dearest Bhagavan, if all creation and creativity is the Divine, be it your ability to sing a song, play an instrument or write a poem, how can we open more and more to divine creation in our everyday lives, to create more art and beauty in the world?
Sri Bhagavan:The more and more you get closer to the Divine, you find that you experience more and more freedom and freedom means freedom from the past. So what happens is, the more the Divine comes into your life, there is a change in your consciousness whereby you experience more and more freedom. By this freedom we mean freedom from the past. Once there is freedom from the past, you become extremely creative. It is the past that is preventing you from being creative. The past may be there but it should not make use of you. You should make use of the past. So once you get your freedom, creating a piece of music, art, architecture, science, technology, whatever the field is, you will become extremely creative.
Q9. Dearest Bhagavan, I have had the experience of complete unconditional love where I was connected to everyone and felt such deep love for everyone and everything and nothing could take me away from this. I want to be in this place where I am at one with all, all the time. Why does this go away? Is there anything I can do to experience this love all the time?
Sri Bhagavan:The brain rewiring, has to be done permanently. Then the state of Oneness is permanent. So all that you need do, since you already have it, is go to the Sacred Chambers and ask for that state to come back. And the Divine can rewire your brain on a permanent basis and that will become a permanent state for you.
Q10. Dear Bhagavan, what can awakened people do to bring more love and kindness to humanity?
Sri Bhagavan:As more and more people get awakened, as more and more people become transformed, it will automatically spread to all humanity. More and more people will arrive there; people will become very loving, they will become very kind and they will sustain each other . Nobody will be thinking of himself or herself. They will be there for others. They will try to sustain the others. One sustaining the other, that is how humanity is going to live. All that will happen as more and more people get awakened and more and more get transformed.
Q11. Dearest Bhagavan, firstly, deepest gratitude to you for all you do for us and for Divine Grace which we feel as your presence with us. When asking for blessings from my Ancestors, I received a message to look into my family history and found I have indigenous ancestry. How can the Oneness community serve our indigenous peoples of Australia?
Sri Bhagavan:The best way to serve the indigenous people of Australia, is to start the Sacred Chambers in their places and make them go through it and you will see how happy and joyful they will become.
Q12 . Dear Bhagavan, I am a blessing giver and a long-time devotee to you and Oneness. The Trainers seem to be given opportunities to serve Oneness in various ways, but I would like to ask: what do you see the role of the Blessing Givers in the future? Will we be able to set up chambers or have any other type of specific roles in seva to you?
Sri Bhagavan:The blessing givers too in the future will be able to start their own Sacred Chambers. However, in the meanwhile, their role will be to send people to the Sacred Chambers. Now, when they keep doing that, they earn tremendous good karma which they could then cash into whatever they would want – for health or wealth or relationship. Send people to the Sacred Chambers, you could do that.
Sri Bhagavan:All the blessings for the Sacred Chambers and particularly for wealth this year.
Sri Bhagavan gives a blessing for the grace of the Sacred Chambers and for wealth for everyone gathered around Australia.